TRINITY: A FALSE DOCTRINE OF A FALSE CHURCH

TRINITY: A FALSE DOCTRINE OF A FALSE CHURCH

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.

1Timothy 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Galatians 3:20 mediator, however, does not represent just one partybut God is one.

Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Habakuk 1:12 LORD, are you not from everlasting?
My God, my Holy One, you will never die.
You, LORD, have appointed them to execute judgment;
you, my Rock, have ordained them to punish. – TNIV

The dictionary defines trinity as the union of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in one God. Meaning they are equal thus saying God the Father = God the Son = God the Holy Spirit. This idea brought also to a coined word “Triune God” meaning there are three gods in different aspects but the same God in all. How do the Trinitarians say that there are three Gods but united as one God?

These are the verses that they used:

John 14:16, 17, 26

16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be [a] in you. 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. – TNIV

John 15: 26

26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me. – TNIV

John 16:13

13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. – NIV

These verses show that they are teaching, witnessing, speaking and hearing. Thus,  they believe that the holy spirit is one being. However, in some verses like Luke 1:41, Matthew 3:11, Acts 10:38 doesn’t show it as a one being. People misinterpreted the above verses in John saying that the holy spirit is like a personal being. It is said in the Holy Scriptures that the personal name of the Father is Jehovah and that the name of the son is Jesus Christ. However, nowhere in the Bible can you find a personal name for the holy spirit.

It says in Acts 7:55,56 that Stephen had seen a vision unto heaven seeing Jesus is standing at the right side of God. But he never mentioned that he saw a holy spirit present with them.

What are the other verses that Trinitarians used to say that there are three different Gods in one God or Jesus is equivalent to Jehovah?

Revelation 1:8

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” – TNIV

However some scholars say it is Jesus. However, nowhere in the Bible says that Jesus is the Almighty God. Indeed from Revelation 1:1 – 2 it clearly states the separateness of Jehovah and Jesus.

Revelation 1: 1- 2

1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,

2who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. – NASB

It says that God gave the revelation to Jesus. Thus it shows Jesus is subordinate to Jehovah. Jehovah was called “Mighty God” in Isaiah 10:21 just like Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 but Jehovah is the only one called “Almighty God”. – Genesis 17:1

Concerning the Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:8, I suggest you visit this link:

http://www.thoughts.com/letusreason/blog/alpha-and-omega-who-is-talkng-jesus-or-god-349988/

Another verse use by Trinitarians saying Jesus is the Almighty God is because of the word “First” and “Last”.

Revelation 1:17-18

17And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

There is a word “First” and “Last” and that makes Trinitarians decide to equate it to “Alpha” and “Omega” just like in Revelation 22:13.

Revelation 22:13

13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. – TNIV

But this cannot be true. This only means Jesus is also the one who helped God to create everything and he is the first creation of God and that he is the last who has given authority in heaven and on earth before he subject himself to God who put all things under his feet. Jesus cannot be the Alpha and Omega or the Almighty God because in John 1:29 it says that Jesus is the Lamb of God – that is a lamb separated from God. When we say “a pen of a writer” what does it suggests to us? It tells us that the writer has a pen to use. Thus, there are two different objects spoken about – the thing and the person.

John 1:29

29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! – NIV

Also in Revelation 5:13 says that Jesus and Jehovah are separate individuals that to be praise forever.

Revelation 5:13

13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”

We can notice the conjunction being used here and that is the word “and”. The two objects are being separate with the use of this word. Though we can give examples as two objects that refer to the same person when using “and”, still it prohibits us to conclude it in that way because of the word “to” that followed by a pronoun “him” and that the word “to” was used again in the next identified object. We can notice this since the Greek text of this verse does include the Greek word for “to” in the preceding of both identified objects. Grammatically, it calls for separateness. In a simple English structure when we say “We give thanks to the president and to the chairman of this company”, this is not the same as “We give thanks to the president and chairman of this company”. The first statement identifies two persons unlike the latter statement which shows single identity i.e. he is both president and chairman of the company.

Another verse used by Trinitarians is Revelation 17:14 as they refer Jesus as “King of all kings” and “Lord of all lords” thus making him equivalent to Jehovah.

Revelation 14:14

14“These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.” – NASB

But this should not to say he is Almighty God because in Revelation 19:13 Jesus is describe as the word of God. And in John 1:1 we know that the Word was with God – meaning two separate individuals. While in Revelation 19:15 Jesus is describe as he will trample out the wine in the wine press of the furious anger of almighty God and NOT HIS WINE PRESS OF HIS FURIOUS ANGER. In fact, Jesus after reigning for 1000 years as being king will give back his kingdom to his Father. – 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

Revelation 14:14 does not include Jehovah. Why do we say this? Because if this applies to all Lords and Kings then it must have the Greek word for “all” but it doesn’t have. Thus when revelation came to John when spoken by an angel, the angel is being sure of the distinction of Jehovah and Jesus. He is aware that Jehovah is the King of all kings and the Lord of all lords and so it prohibits the word “all” to use for Jesus. The absence of the word “all” shows explicitly that there is someone who is except from kings and lords that will govern by Jesus and this was true in Corinthians 15:24 – 28 wherein Jesus will subject himself to his Father Jehovah.

Revelation 19:15

15From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. – NASB

1 Corinthians 15:24 – 28

24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. – KJV

Also Jesus cannot be Jehovah, the Almighty God because in Deuteronomy 6:4 Jehovah is only one God. And he proved it as having one name in Zechariah 14:9.

Another verse used by Trinitarians is John 10:30

John 10:30 “I and the Father are One.”

This should not be taken literally for in John 17:21-23, Jesus is praying about his disciples to be one – that is to be united as one just like Jesus and his Father. It only means Jesus is in union with the Father and Jehovah is in union with the Son.

John 17:21-23

21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. – TNIV

Another verse used by Trinitarians is Philippians 2:9-10, which other says Jesus is the name above all names.

Philippians 2:9-10

9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

But notice verse 9. It says God EXALTED HIM and GAVE HIM A NAME that is above all names but not with the name of the Father which is Jehovah. Could it be possible that Jesus exalted himself and gave himself a name? No. It is clear in the verse that God as being separate from Jesus highly exalted him and given him a name.

Another verse use by Trinitarians, equating Jesus to Jehovah is Acts 4:12.

Acts 4:12

12“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” – NASB

In relation also to Acts 10:43 and Matthew 1:21, 23

“All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name” – TNIV. All these verses show that the name Jesus is the key of salvation of a person. JW believe that Jesus is the salvation of mankind for his name means help/salvation of Jehovah. But it should not mean that he alone is the salvation of the people. In fact, 1 Timothy 2:5 states that there is a mediator between God and men and that is Jesus. And in Jude 25 it says that God is our savior and it is through Jesus Christ. Also in 1 Timothy 4:10 it says that God is the Savior.

1Timothy 2:5

5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; – KJV

Jude 25

25to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. – NASB

1Timothy 4:10

10For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. – KJV

Another verse used by Trinitarians is Hebrews 1:3. It says here Jesus is the exact likeness of God’s own being thus claiming by them that Jesus is Jehovah also because it says somewhere in Isaiah that no one is like God.

Hebrews 1:3

3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, – NASB

4having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.

But notice the last sentence in verse 3, it says Jesus sat at the right hand of the Majesty on high and verse 4 it says Jesus had inherited a name greater than any angel. In fact in 1 Colossians 1:15-16 it says that Jesus is the visible likeness of the invisible GodNo one had seen God. – John 1:18 God does not die. – Habakuk 1:12

Majesty in dictionary means supreme power or authority and it is a title use to refer to a King or Queen. Thus, when Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Majesty, Jesus was showing that he is not the Majesty. What about verse 4 which says he inherited a more excellent name? Inheritance cannot mean from your own property but from someone who owns it. It needs someone who will give inheritance to a person or persons. Thus, in a family when we say inheritance it simply shows parents who gives their property to their son/s.

Other verse used by Trinitarians is Acts 20:28.

Acts 20:28

8Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of Godwhich he hath purchased with his own blood. (See this link for further discussion about this subject:

https://fromthesunrising.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/the-truth-in-colossians-11617/

However, look 1 John 1:7 and Revelation 1:4-6. To whom the blood refers to and the way of salvation comes?

1 John 1:7

7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[a] sin. – NIV

Revelation 1:4-6

4John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. – KJV

Other verse used by Trinitarians is Romans 9:5 and Titus 2:13.

Romans 9:5

5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

but in NWT

5 to whom the forefathers belong and from whom the Christ [sprang] according to the flesh:God, who is over all, [be] blessed forever. Amen. – NWT

Here is a vivid explanation concerning the translation of Romans 9:5 in NWT. [http://onlytruegod.org/defense/romans9.5.htm]

Titus 2:13

13while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, – NIV

while in NWT

13 while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus, – NWT

But take a look on Romans 15:5-6, Titus 1:4 and Jude 25

Romans 15:5-6

5May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, 6so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. – NIV

Titus 1:4

4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. – KJV

Jude 25

25to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. – NASB

Another verse used by Trinitarians is Matthew 1:23

Matthew 1:23 “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will call his name Im·man´u·el,” which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.”

They used it as proof text that Jehovah was with those persons before literally. However, we can find many biblical texts that show Jehovah is with his people but not literally. I suggest you see these verses that show Jehovah is with his people before – Isaiah 8:10; Deuteronomy 20:1 and Psalms 46:7, 11.

Another verse by Trinitarians is John 5:18

John 5:18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

This verse doesn’t prove that Jesus is Almighty God. This is words of John was the belief of Jews about Jesus. The Jews are saying that since Jesus called God as his own Father then they believe that he is making himself equal with God.

For one to say that John is saying that Jesus makes himself equal with God, he should also say that John believes that Jesus had sinned against the law of Sabbath as this was the thinking of the Jews before unto Jesus. Should John say that Jesus is sinning against the law of Sabbath because of Jesus’ good works? No. But this was the thinking of the Jews about Jesus. How come John would say that Jesus had broken the Sabbath? To say this by John is to agree with the Jews who are against the doings of Jesus on a Sabbath. John was the one chosen to proclaim about the Messiah or Christ. He was the first one who had seen and heard the manifestation from God that Jesus is the Son of God. So how come would John think that Jesus is breaking the Sabbath or to say that he is sinning and that Jesus is making himself equal with God? Jesus explained that priests do things in Sabbath and are blameless according to the Jews and also who profaned or not considered Sabbath as a sacred matter – Matthew 12:5; John 7:22, 23. The truth is that it was the Jews who claimed it and John had just reported their thoughts about Jesus. Jesus did not break the law of Sabbath because he perform a miracle and done good thing to a man on a Sabbath day unlike the other priests mentioned by Jesus who are circumcising little children during a Sabbath day but believe by the Jews as if these priests are blameless against the law. Jesus is just comparing the works of priests on Sabbath day (which were believed by the Jews as blameless) and his works which shows good thing not only to the man but for his Father as well.

Also notice on John 10:32 – 36 where Jesus is implicitly saying that he is a godbut not the God and explicitly saying that he is the Son of God. When Jews questions Jesus as he was making himself “a god” they want to stone him but Jesus quote from Psalm 82:6 mentioning those gods called by Jehovah and in this he is saying that why would they stone him if Jehovah calls people as gods? In this passage Jesus is clearly identifying himself as a god in an implicit waybut not the God for he just quoted the words of his Father as of like calling people as gods. In addition to this he questioned the Jews how come they say that he blasphemed when God sent him and he said he is the Son of God but he never said implicitly that he is God (the Almighty).

These are the verses that prove that Jehovah is not coequal with Jesus:

John 17:3

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. – NWT

John 17:24

“Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. – TNIV

John 17:5

5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.

Galatians 3:20

20 A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one. – NIV

In relation to 1 Timothy 2:5 as Jesus is the mediator between God and men.

John 7:28, 29

28Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.
29But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me. – KJV

John 8:28, 29

28So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me29The one who sent me is with mehe has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.”

John 5:30

30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiativejust as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me. – NWT

John 12: 49-50

49 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak. 50 Also, I know that his commandment means everlasting life. Therefore the things I speak, just as the Father has told me [them], so I speak [them].” – NWT

John 16:32

32 Look! The hour is coming, indeed, it has come, when YOU will be scattered each one to his own house and YOU will leave me alone; and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.

Daniel 7:13

13 “I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.

The verses in Daniel speaks of two persons. It is Jehovah and Jesus.

Mark 13:32

32 “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.

Revelation 1:1

1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,

*Revelation 6:16-17

 

16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

 

This verse clearly shows that Jesus and Jehovah are showing their wrath. Two identities who are both present at the same time.

 

*Revelation 3:21

 

21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

 

It clearly states that Jesus sits on his throne and that he is with his Father who is also sitting on its throne.

*Revelation 3:12

12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine.

Jesus is already in heaven by this time yet he said “in the temple of my God” and “the name of my God” and “from my God”. This clearly shows that they are distinct persons.

In relation to Revelation 14:1

1 And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.

Compare Zechariah 14:9

9 And Jehovah must become king over all the earth. In that day Jehovah will prove to be one, and his name one.

So how could be his name two? Thus, Jesus has a new name and Jehovah also has one name that will be written on the foreheads of those people who will be on heaven.

John 14: 23 – 24

23 In answer Jesus said to him: “If anyone loves me, he will observe my word, and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make our abode with him. 24 He that does not love me does not observe my words; and the word that YOU are hearing is not mine, but belongs to the Father who sent me.

John 8:40

40“But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do.

John 7:16 – 17

16 Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me17 If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching whether it is from God or I speak of my own originality.

John 14:28

28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. – TNIV

1 Corinthians 11:3

3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:27, 28

27For He [the Father] has put all things in subjection under His [Christ’s] feet. But when it says, All things are put in subjection [under Him], it is evident that He [Himself] is excepted Who does the subjecting of all things to Him.

28However, when everything is subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also subject Himself to [the Father] Who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all [be everything to everyone, supreme, the indwelling and controlling factor of life]. – AMP

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6

5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one Godthe Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. – TNIV

1 Peter 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, – KJV

John 20:17

17Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Fatherto my God and your God.’ ” – NIV

John 1:18

18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. – KJV

John 1:14

14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. – NASB

Colossians 3:1

1Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. – NASB

1 Peter 3:21-22

21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection ofJesus Christ:
22Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Romans 8:34

Who then can condemn? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. – TNIV
This is clearly a connection proof of Jesus as mediator between men and God – 1 Timothy 2:5

John 10:36

36do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?

John 3:17,18

17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

John 17:8

8for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me.

Luke 4:18

18“THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME,
BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR.
HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES,
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,
TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,
19TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.” – NASB

John 15:15

15“No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you. – NASB

John 17:5

5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Psalm 110:1-2

The LORD says to my lord: [a]
Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”

The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying,
“Rule in the midst of your enemies.” – TNIV

And this was quoted by Jesus and was reported in Matthew 22:41-45. Jesus himself was saying as to who he is and from whom he came from. David was inspired by the holy spirit this was the scenario when Jehovah promised to Jesus to rule against its enemies.

Luke 18:18-19

18 A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”    19Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.

JOHN 11:15-18

11These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I HAVE HEARD OF MY FATHER I have made known unto you.
16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ASK OF THE FATHER IN MY NAME, he may give it you.
17These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18If the WORLD HATE YOU, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

The best from the word of Jesus which he quoted from the words of His Father:

Matthew 4:10

10Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[a]

a. Deuteronomy 6:13

1 Timothy 6:13-16

13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you 14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light,whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen. – TNIV

If Jesus is really God then why he does not say these in Matthew 4:10 “Are you insulting me and out of your mind Satan? I am Almighty God, your creator and your God yet you want me to bow or worship you? How foolish is your thinking!”

I hope the verses presented here as also presented by the JW will help the viewers who believe in Trinity or of Triune God understand the true teachings of the Holy Scriptures. I hope those Trinitarians will start to know and accept the truth.

NOTICE: THE WORLD BETWEEN THE JW AND THE TRINITARIANS IS LIKE THIS: “WHEN A JW PRESENT SCRIPTURAL TRUTHS TO TRINITARIANS THE TRINITARIANS PRESENTS ANOTHER TEXT TO PROVE THEIR FALSE DOCTRINE BUT THE JW HAVE EXPLAINED ALL OF THESE YET THE VERSES PRESENTED BY JW TO WHICH JEHOVAH AND JESUS IDENTIFIED AS DISTINCT AND SEPARATE ARE BEING IGNORED BY THEM SIMPLY BY REFERRING TO ANOTHER TEXTS TO BACK UP ON THEIR BIASED DOTRINE.”

Please visit this link for the history of the doctrine of Trinity and the explanations of Watchtower against Trinity:

http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_04.htm

http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_08.htm

And my other blogs concerning against trinity:

https://fromthesunrising.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/574/

https://fromthesunrising.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-underlying-truth-in-john-11/

 

 


26 responses to this post.

  1. I would suggest to have this reading for you.

    http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/09/ao-speaker-confusion.html

    The point of the writer’s explanation is that Rev. 1:8 is being spoken by another speaker because John as a new speaker of Rev. 1:9 can never be the “Alpha and Omega”. Now, take a look on Rev.22:12-13, the speaker of this is none other than the Lord Almighty [Jehovah] though like what said in the blog other Bible translators use to show it is an angel. However, there are Bible readers and translators who believe that Revelation 22:12 -15 is the Lord Almighty while others believe that Revelation 22:16 is the continuation of the words of Jesus from the verses 12 -15. But again take a look on verse 1:8, it is the Lord Almighty who speaking while in an instance verse 9 was spoken by none other than John. This is to say clearly that in the same relation as for Rev. 1:8 and 9 is concern the speaker of Rev. 22:12 – 15 is spoken by another person and that Rev. 22:16 was spoken also by another person which is Jesus. The same structure can be seen in Rev. 1:8 and 9.

  2. Maybe this links could also give further explanation regarding that topic.

    http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=311&mforum=jw

  3. I love the point the writer made on this link.

    http://robertangle.com/ruminations/2010/05/identifying-the-alpha-and-the-omega/

    Compare this also Rev. 3:21 and in Rev. 3:12 Jesus is calling his Father Almighty as his God. Compare now this verse in Revelation 20:5 – 7, Jehovah [the Lord Almighty] is the one speaking here yet he said he will be their God. In Rev. 3:12 Jesus is calling the Lord Almighty as his God while in Revelation 20:5 – 7. The Lord Almighty is saying He will be the God of those righteous ones.

  4. Here is the additional information that comes from watchtower.org.

    http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_08.htm http://www.watchtower.org/e/20091101/article_05.htm

    Compare Colossians 3:1 and Daniel 7:9, 10 and Daniel 7:13 – 14. In the last two verses it is Jesus who is coming to the Ancient of Days where he was given rulership, dignity and kingdom that will not pass away.

  5. The fact is there are some [perhaps many] or even other people JW or not a JW who are being mislead with the information they have read or heard about this scriptural verses that the Trinitarians are pointing out. It is also our [JW] responsibility [mostly if it is our family] to give them further explanation and enlightenment that will make their mind not blurd in order not to loose their faith that they currently have. It is also helpful in encouraging other people especially Trinitarians to open their eyes and see what is really the truth by providing such these kind of information which sometimes cannot be found in watchtower’s site and other publications. Although there are many scriptural verses that is used by the watchtower in their publications to prove the faith that we have it is also indeed that some questions need to be answer specifically in particular for them to be satisfied.

  6. Here is another link that I have read and it is interesting to know the points of Jehovah’s Witnesses on this particular subject.

    http://www.thoughts.com/letusreason/rev-117-28-isa-446-4812-13-ao-fistlast-beginningend

  7. Here is another link that talks about the presence of Jesus with Jehovah God as stated in John 17:5.

    http://www.thoughts.com/letusreason/robert-v-frazier-and-a-jw-poster-on-para-acts-175

  8. Here is a thorough study about Jehovah as the true God and Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

    Click to access gc.pdf

  9. There are lots of research on this link that discusses about Trinity. It would be a good help for anyone to read these posts to have better understanding about Jehovah as the Almighty Father and that Jesus Christ is a subordinate person who was created by God the Almighty.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JWquestions-and_answers/message/1623

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  20. A QUOTE FROM CHARLES LOYAL (JW) – “Trinitarians seem to think that the few Scriptures that happen to mention the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in one breath somehow means that they are the same person. But if one actually examines these Scriptures they will see that there is no mention of these three being the one God. In fact, the actual wording of the “trinitarian” 2 Cor. 13:14, when examined, proves it to be evidence against a trinity concept. There, it states that there is only one called “God” and that is the Father and that God is mentioned as a separate and distinct individual FROM the Son and the Holy Spirit!

    Likewise, Mt. 28:19 is extremely weak trinitarian “evidence”.

    Even Trinitarian New Testament language experts tell us that Bible phrases beginning “in the name of…” indicate that the secondary meaning of “authority” or “power” was intended by the Bible writer. – p. 772, Vine. Therefore, Matt. 28:19 actually means: “baptizing them in recognition of the power [or the authority] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy spirit.”

    That W. E. Vine specifically includes Matt. 28:19 in this category can be further shown by his statement on p. 772 of his reference work. When discussing the secondary meaning of “name” (“authority,” “power”) he says that it is used

    “in recognition of the authority of (sometimes combined with the thought of relying on or resting on), Matt. 18:20; cp. 28:19; Acts 8:16….”

    Robertson’s Word Pictures in the New Testament, Vol. 1, p. 245, makes the same admission when discussing Matt. 28:19:

    “The use of name (onoma) here is a common one in the Septuagint and the papyri for power or authority.”

    Noted trinitarian scholars McClintock and Strong say in their Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature concerning Matthew 28:18-20:

    “This text, however, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity.” (1981 reprint, Vol. X, p. 552)

    And trinitarian scholar Kittel in his Theological Dictionary of the New Testament:

    “The N[ew] T[estament] does not actually speak of triunity. We seek this in vain in the triadic formulae [including Matthew 28:19] of the NT.”

    The fact that “name” is singular at Matt. 28:19 is only further proof that “authority” or “power” was meant and not a personal name. If more than one person is involved, then the plural “names” would be used (compare Rev. 21:12). Even trinitarians admit that their God is composed of 3 separate persons. And each one of those “persons” has his own personal name (except, as we have seen, the holy spirit really does not)! Therefore, if personal names were intended here for these three different “persons,” the plural “names” would have been used in this Scripture.

    Since it clearly means “in recognition of the power, or authority of,” it is perfectly correct to use “name” in the singular. In fact, it must be used that way. We even recognize this in our own language today. We say, for example, “I did it in the name [singular] of love, humanity, and justice.”

    It is significant that Scriptures show that the personal name of God and the personal name of Christ are two distinctly separate names. It is also significant that there is no mention in the entire Bible of any personal name for the holy spirit.

    If Jesus were really saying that Jehovah, Jesus, and the holy spirit had personal names and these names must be used during baptism, he would have used the plural word “names” at Matt. 28:19. And we would see the Father’s personal name (“Jehovah” – Is. 63:16; 64:8 – Ps. 83:18 and Luke 1:32 – Exodus 3:15 and Acts 3:13) and the Son’s personal name (“Jesus” – Luke 1:31, 32) and the holy spirit’s personal name (“?”) all being used in Christian baptism ceremonies for the past 1900 years.

    In spite of the extreme weakness of the trinitarian “evidence” for Matt. 28:19, it is nearly always cited by trinitarians because, incredibly poor as it is, it is one of their very best trinitarian “proofs”! And it is generally hailed by trinitarians as the best evidence for the deity of the holy spirit! This certainly shows how extremely weak the scriptural evidence is for a trinity!” – end of quote

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