JESUS – THE ARCHANGEL AND A GOD (REEDITED)

A. Prove:  Jesus is an angel and a god and not the Almighty God. (This is inclusive of heavenly government)

Proof: Statement

  1. Angels in heaven are servants/messengers/ministers

of God – [Hebrew 1:14; Genesis 19:1-26; *Psalms 103:20,21]

  1. Servants/ministers in heaven means not Almighty God –

[by logical and literal definition]

  1. Angels are not Almighty God – [Nehemiah 9:6]

(from # 1 & 2)

  1. Jesus is the Almighty God or a god – [John 1:1]

(different claims by Christianity)

  1. If Jesus is not Almighty God then he is a god – [by literal logical definition]
  2. Jesus is a messenger/servant of God – [Malachi 3:1; Isaiah 42:1 – 6]
  3. Servants/messengers/ministers of God are angels in heaven

-[by definite rule – vice versa definition] (from # 1)

  1. Jesus is an angel – [from implication of # 6, 7]
  2. Jesus is not Almighty God – [from consecutive implication of # 8, 3]

– [Revelation 1:1; 3:12; 3:21; 6:16, 17 *Hebrews 1:2,3; 12:2; Luke 22:41, 42; John 12:49,50; Daniel 7:11, 13, 14; John 7:16, 17; *John 7:28, 29]

10. Jesus is a god – [John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:18] in concordance to * 1 Corinthians 8:5 (from consecutive implication of # 9, 5)

11. gods are angels – 1 Corinthians 8:5; Deuteronomy 10:17; Psalms 136:2; Daniel 2:47

12. Jesus is an angel.

Note: This is inclusive on heavenly government

Legend: A = angel/s; SG = servant/s of God; AG = Almighty God; G = a god; J = Jesus;

– AG = not Almighty God

Proof: SYMBOLICAL LOGIC

  1. A –> SG
  2. SG –> – AG
  3. A –> – AG (from # 1,2)
  4. J –> AG v G
  5. – AG –> G
  6. J –> SG
  7. SG –> A (by def.rule; from # 1)
  8. J –> A (from # 6, 7)
  9. J –> – AG (from # 8, 3)
  10. J –> G (from #9, 5)
  11. G –> A
  12. J –> A (from consecutive implication of # 10 and # 11)

B. Assumed: Jesus is an angel. [the proof is in above] Prove:   Jesus is the Archangel.

Proof: Statement

  1. Jesus is the Archangel or not the Archangel.

(two different assumptions)

  1. Michael is the Archangel. [Jude 9]
  2. The Archangel literally means the First Angel

(by literal definition)

  1. Michael is the First Angel. – [by transitive rule # 2, 3)
  2. “Michael and his angels” means he is the leader of armies in heaven or angels in heaven (Revelation 12:7)
  3. Jesus is the leader of angels in heaven. (2 Thessalonians 1:7)

[angels in heaven = armies of heaven – Revelation 19:14 – 16]

7. The leader of armies/angels in heaven literally means the Chief of angels

in heaven.

8.The Chief of Angels means the Chief Angel. [by word contraction (of)

9.Jesus is the Chief Angel. (by implication of #  6, 7, 8)

10.The Chief Angel is Jesus. [by definite rule (vice versa definition), # 9)

11.Jesus is the First Angel (* there is only one Almighty God and since he was created he             was not the God but a god and an angel – the very first in the creation by God – Col. 1:15;           John 1:1,2; Prov. 8:22, 23, 24; Revelation 3:14)

12.First Angel is Jesus (by definite rule – vice versa definition of # 11)

13.Michael is the Chief Angel (by implication of # 5, 7 and 8)

14.Chief Angel is Michael (by definite rule – vice versa definition from # 13)

15. Michael is Jesus (by # 4 and 12)

16.  Jesus is Michael (by definite rule; from implication of # 9, 14)

17.Jesus is the Archangel. (by implication of # 16 and 2)

LEGEND: AA = archangel; J = Jesus; M = Michael; LA = leader of armies in heaven;

CA = Chief Angel; CoA = Chief of Angel; FA = First Angel; -AA = not the archangel

Proof: SYMBOLICAL LOGIC

  1. J –> AA v  – AA
  2. M –> AA
  3. AA –> FA
  4. M –> FA (by transitive rule, # 2, 3)
  5. M –> LA
  6. J –> LA
  7. LA –> C0A
  8. CoA –> CA (by word contraction of “0f”)
  9. J –> CA  [by definite rule, # 6, 7 and 8)
  10. CA –> J  [by definite rule (vice versa definition), # 9)
  11. J –> FA
  12. FA –> J (by definite rule; vice versa definition # 11
  13. M –> CA (by implication of # 5, 7 and 8)
  14. CA –> M (by definite rule – vice versa definition # 13)
  15. M –> J (by implication of #4, and 12)
  16. J –> M (by definite rule; from implication 0f # 9, 14)
  17. J –> AA (by implication of # 16 and 2)

Jehovah is called Jehovah of armies (these includes all angels in heaven) and since Jesus is the leader of armies in heaven, he is definitely the chief of angels in heaven or the chief angel or the chief of armies in heaven and since Michael has his angels in heaven and since there is no separate groups of angels in heaven for Jesus, it is therefore to conclude that Michael and his angels means Michael and all his angels and Jesus and all his angels are the same group and so Jesus is Michael the archangel.

Additional Proofs: Jesus is the Chief Agent – Hebrews 12:2; Acts 3:15 Agent means representative or somebody used as an instrument. An angel is a representative of God and acts as an instrument of God – see many Biblical verses [ex. Genesis 19:1 – 26] Thus, Chief Agent means Chief Representative of God = Chief Angel of God. One thing Jesus name is not his name in heaven (compare his preexistence in heaven in Micah 5:2; John 1:1,2 Colossians 1:15; Revelation 3:14) because in Matthew 1:21 Jesus name was name because he was going to save his people that’s why his name presumably in Hebrew is Yeshua or Yehoshua which literally means Jehovah is salvation. How come his name is Jesus when it was name BECAUSE he will save meaning becomes savior of his people. There is a reason why his name was named Jesus. And Jesus existed in the beginning – before the creation of everything in billion of years ago and in addition to this, Adam and Eve are created to live forever on earth but it was not fulfilled. Thus, originally the aim is not to save anyone but to let the mankind live forever on earth. Therefore, Jesus name is Michael which literally mean a question as “Who is like God?” or a phrase as “who is like God (http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003035) since he was the exact representation of God – the image of the invisible God and that he is a god and a godlike (compare Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3; John 1:18; Isaiah 9:6; 1 Corinthians 8:5; ***Psalms 8:5 – see the hebrew word of godlike (angels) which is “meelohim” – http://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/8-5.htm). Thus, he is like God – the very exact representation of his Father but they are not one – Revelation 6:16, 17; Revelation 3:12; 21.

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11 responses to this post.

  1. I have opened NWT 2013 on Psalms 50:1 — http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/psalms/50/ there is written as Jehovah is God of gods — the exact and right literal translation indeed! See the interlinear here – http://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/50-1.htm El Elohim which is literally could be translated as God of gods! I was totally surprised when I checked on the interlinear bible! That proves also that angels in heaven are gods which can be seen in 1 Corinthians 8:5!

  2. First of Honors means first honor; first of members means first member; first of angels = first angel; prime of angels = prime angel thus chief of military = chief military; all possess same quality but definite and first among the class. Thus, archangel = chief of angel = prime of angels = first of angels (first and definite among the class of angels)!

  3. God of gods in other Bible versions http://biblehub.com/psalms/136-2.htm … ARE THEY FALSE GODS OR TRUE GODS… HAHAHA… SEE…

  4. They are true gods (by the essence of being a true divine being with supernatural power) but not THE TRUE (ALMIGHTY) GOD!!!

  5. They are not false gods because Jehovah in Psalms 136:2 is God of gods and he cannot be the God of false gods. They are gods but not consider as the true God. If Jehovah is God of gods and Jesus is a son of God and Jesus said to Jehovah as his God then therefore Jesus is a god for he is not the God. All angels are gods (1 Corintians 8:5) and Jesus is not the God therefore he is an angel (the Angel of God) who is also a god for he is an angel. Therefore, Jehovah as God of gods includes all those angels in heaven and that includes Jesus definitely! There would be no superior god among the angels (gods) in heaven none other than Jesus, exactly right? Jehovah is the God of Jesus (a god). Thus, the Word is a god (John 1:1) and called as the begotten god (John 1:18).

  6. The first chapter of John says nowhere that “Jesus is the Almighty God” though confirms he is worthy of the title ‘god’ like others of high esteem like the Pharaoh, Moses, and others like angels, Apollo, Zeus, where also called god, but are not the All Mighty Elohim Hashem Jehovah.

  7. Yes, that’s true. John explicitly told that Jesus is a god who is beside the Almighty God (John 1:1) who is literally in the presence of God in heaven (Revelation 1:1; Revelation 3:14; Colossians 3:1)

  8. Is Jesus the Creator? No. He is not the one with title Creator. Please read carefully Proverbs 8:22, Jesus (the Wisdom) was said to be created/set/established. Is Wisdom of God created, set or established. Wisdom is a quality of God from eternity. It exists along his eternal qualities – Psalms 90:2. A wisdom of person is different with knowledge. Knowledge could be acquired yet wisdom is the ability or condition of mind to comprehend things or ideas, the ability to design and established concepts. It is deep on the mind of the person itself. Please read Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14 (http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/3-14.htm) and Jesus was the helper of Jehovah in creating all things in the universe (Proverbs 8:30; Colossians 1:16,17) therefore he is not God but a god who is beside God (John 1:1; Hebrews 12:2 *who sat down at the right hand OF THE THRONE OF GOD (WHO IS ON THE THRONE IF HE IS BESIDE THE THRONE OF GOD, or IF HE IS GOD THEN WHY HE IS BESIDE OF HIS THRONE? LOL) and he has God in heaven (Revelation 3:12) and he is the chief agent of life. Agent means instrument or representative. Angels are agents of Jehovah God. They are representatives or instruments of God. Therefore, Jesus is the Chief Angel = Archangel = Prime Angel of God = The Angel of God. Angels are agent because they are servants of God. They are agent of life because they are saviors, like the 2 angels who bring the message to Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah and the two angels in the book of Daniel, the one who saved Daniel from the lion and the angel who save the three teenagers from the fire. Also the angel who freed Peter from prison and the angel that killed 185,000 soldiers to protect the nation of Jehovah God are examples that they are agents of life. They act as representative for Jehovah. They are all saviors. One thing, angels are helping the people and the servants of God with regards to the good news of kingdom of God. I hope you clearly see the points.

  9. Satan tested Jesus and he offered all the kingdoms on earth to Jesus if Jesus will make a worship to him. If Jesus is the Creator or the God why would Satan ask Jesus to make a worship to him? And Satan is not questioning the Godship of Jehovah because he knew that God is the Creator of all things. What Satan is questioning is the goodness of the authority of God to lead the mankind. In case of Jesus, he is questioning the loyalty of Jesus to his Father and his total being as the the Son of God as well as the title of as “the Son of Man.” Did Satan ask, “if you are God…? No. Rather “if you are the Son of God…, but not to say he doesn’t know that Jesus is the Son of God for he used Scriptures to test Jesus indicating he and the demons are aware of Holy Scriptures for they are even very eager to break the prophecy of God to Jesus coming. Remember King Herod? Who influenced King Herod to kill 2 years old and below? But see how the prophecies was fulfilled when Mary and Joseph went to Egypt and then go back to Jerusalem . The acts of Satan was already seen that is why God made a way to secure his son from his hands. Demons are everywhere. Of course a demon would see about Jesus even Satan would know the baptism of Jesus and his total being as a growing child. Satan knew many things about the Messiah. It is not hidden to him for many Jews have told they have found the Messiah and Satan would definitely hear the news or seen the baptism of Jesus as well as the voice coming from heaven as Jesus is the Son of God as well as by the other demons. Even the demons who enters on pigs clearly knew Jesus. Satan knew it was Jesus but what he meant by his questions is that to prove by Jesus to him that he is really the Son of God by putting a test to him. Satan want Jesus to be deceived by his tests and to lose Jesus’ loyalty to Almighty God and eventually to lose the approval of Jehovah to Jesus. One most thing, Satan wanted to break the word of Jehovah in Genesis 3:15 and from the book of Psalms, Isaiah and the book of the Prophets pertaining to the prophecies about Jesus. That is how terrible Satan is. He wants to break the words of Jehovah by wanting Jesus to lose his faith to his Father. And why would the Creator or the Great Designer would ask by Satan to worship him? If Jesus is God and the Creator as what Trinitarians believe then Jesus would have say, “Who causes you to exist? From whom all the power and mightiness in heaven and earth comes from? I am your God and Creator yet you want me to bow to you and worship you? Are you out of your mind, Satan? You’re so ridiculous!” That’s the thing would come to one’s thinking, isn’t it? Even in this world, no person would tell to a President of a country to make a bow and worship him, right? lol 😀

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