IDENTIFYING THE FUTURE HEAVENLY BEINGS AND EARTHLY BEINGS
Posted by: fromthesunrising on: November 4, 2009
IDENTIFYING THE FUTURE HEAVENLY BEINGS AND EARTHLY BEINGS
John 10:16 “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd. – NWT
John 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. – NASB
It is clear from the words of Jesus that he has people who doesn’t belong to his fold or pen. When Jesus spoke these terms he was talking to his apostles at that time. He said he will bring them too and they will become one flock. So definitely, on the time he is saying it he mean that there are other sheep (other Christians on that time) who are not belong to his fold. His words “not on this fold” are assured true because he said “they will become one flock” – meaning separated from the flock he mentioned first. That is really true because he said that only little flock will be on heaven.
Luke 12:32 “Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.”
Is this only applied to early Christians before? Let us study the verse below.
Luke 22:2″The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 14 For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
Is this refer to all the people on earth that is invited but few have chosen to be saved? No. Verse 14 show the word “many” not “all” so definitely it is not all the people on earth. “Many” is different from “all”. We all know that, right? Would Jehovah call only some people to be saved? Of course not. What is the proof that Jehovah not only chooses many but all to be saved?
1 Timothy 2: 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. – TNIV
And if all people (the Christians after Jesus unto Armageddon) who will be saved on Armageddon will live on heaven then the word of God will become false. And those are in the following verses:
Proverbs 2:21,22
21For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
22But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. – KJV
Isaiah 24: 5The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.6Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. – KJV
Isaiah 24:13-16
13When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done.
14They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
15Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
16From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.
The verses shows that after the tribulation come then that would be the time for the harvest and many people around the world will sing and praise for Joy in the name of Jehovah.
to be continued….
John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. – NWT
John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” – NWT
It is not him who chooses the other people to be his sheep. It is subject to the person itself. Jesus will not force anyone to be on his body.
A supporting verses from the Scriptures would prove the words of Jesus.
Luke 12:32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.
Revelation 5: 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. – KJV
Revelation 5:9 And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
Revelation 14:1 And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was as of singers who accompany themselves on the harp playing on their harps. 3 And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth. – NWT
We see now that the small flock whom Jesus told is the 144,000 redeemed from all the human race in the world. How are we going to know now that those who will be on heaven is only 144,000?
Revelation 7:9, 10, 13 – 15 : 9 “After this I looked, and there was an enormous crowd – no one could count the people! They were from every race, tribe, nation, and language, and they stood in front of the throne and of the Lamb, dressed in white robes and holding palm branches in their hands. 10They called out in a loud voice : ‘Salvation comes from our God, who sits on the throne, and from the Lamb!’ ” 13One of the elders asked me, ‘Who are these people dressed in white robes, and where do they come from?’ 14‘I don’t know, sir. You do,’ I answered. He said to me, ‘These are the people who have come safely through the terrible persecution. They have washed their robes and made them white with the blood of the Lamb. 15That is why they stand before God’s throne and serve him day and night in his temple. He who sits on the throne will protect them with his presence.’ ”
Is this mean they are literally would be on heaven. No. Acts 10:33; 1 timothy 5:21; 2 Timothy 2:14 shows the word before God. But it doesn’t mean it is literally in front of God. A lot of verses in Hebrew Scriptures uses the same word. I would write them next time.
Some religious leaders say that 144,000 is symbolical and not literal number. Saying that all Christians will be on heaven. That is from the time of Christ upto the day of Armageddon.And those who will be saved will be on heaven and those who lived before Jesus Christ will live on earth. Let us see first the proof that those only who come during Jesus’ time as man until today are the one who will be on heaven.
John 3:3 In answer Jesus said to him: “Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nic·o·de´mus said to him: “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into the womb of his mother a second time and be born, can he?” 5 Jesus answered: “Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
Obviously born from water means baptism in water. And this only started on the time of Jesus as man and first practiced by John the Baptist. There is no evidence in the Hebrew Scriptures that practiced baptism in water. Another verse is this:
John 1:12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. – NASB
Of course people will not come to existence without the will of God. That born is in physical. Born of a woman – by blood and flesh. But the word born of God signifies a different thing to children of God. Who are those born of GOD. A verse from the Bible identifies them clearly.
Romans 9:10And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 
12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. – KJV
Romans 9:16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. – NASB
Romans 8:27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God. (emphasize the italized word)
28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who [a] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined [emphasize pls] to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined [emphasize pls], he also called [emphasize pls] ; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. – TNIV
Now what does predestined mean? As far as I know it is a journey which in the end you will be there because someone define it for you. Would this mean all chosen people will be on heaven whether they continue to be bad on their dead.Definitely not. Is this a force to someone to be in heaven. No. It is an invitation for those selected people.
Hebrews 3: 1Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; – KJV
to be continued…..
Heaven Will Pass Away – What Does This Imply?
Posted by: fromthesunrising on: October 28, 2009
HEAVEN WILL PASS AWAY – WHAT DOES THIS IMPLY?
Matthew24:35 “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” -
These are the words of Jesus to his disciples before. He assured that it would be easier for heaven and earth to pass rather than a single word from the Scriptures that will not come true.
Now are these literal heavens and earth that will pass away? Let us consider verse below.
Isaiah 34:4 And all those of the army of the heavens must rot away. And the heavens must be rolled up, just like a book scroll; and their army will all shrivel away, just as the leafage shrivels off the vine and like a shriveled [fig] off the fig tree. – NWT
Isaiah 34:4All the stars of the heavens will be dissolved
and the sky rolled up like a scroll;
all the starry host will fall
like withered leaves from the vine,
like shriveled figs from the fig tree. – NIV
Isaiah 34:4And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. – KJV
If you notice in NIV it is written as “all stars of heavens will be dissolved.” also with KJV as “all the host of heaven” which may have the same meaning as stars. So taking the same meaning and literally all stars would be gone. Let us see if this is really the concept of this verse.
Hebrew 12:26At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” [a] 27 The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.
Notice the word use “once more”. Meaning Jehovah had shaken the earth before but not literally when he done something for Israelites during the time of Moses. First when Israelites were been freed from Egyptians. The power of Jehovah had seen and heard by many people not only in Egypt but also with other territories. He did not shaken the earth literally before. A lot of events in the Bible showed how Jehovah shaken the earth for his chosen people. So with this, we must also consider the heavens as not literally. “Once more” was explained by Paul as of removing of what can be shaken. Let us consider another verse in order to know the meaning of this.
Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil,
the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty
and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
12 I will make people scarcer than pure gold,
more rare than the gold of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble;
and the earth will shake from its place
at the wrath of the LORD Almighty,
in the day of his burning anger.
It was said that on that day of Jehovah, he will cause the heavens tremble and earth shake. Definitely, the words signifies something. It is not yet dissolved. Only tremble and shake. Would it there be another meaning of it? Let us have an illustration. When a thing or land was shaken, obviously the thing or land is still there. But it would create a result or impact on it. A sand on a water in a container will be at the bottom level of the water yet when you shook it then it would scattered all throughout the water. But still there is still the water and the sand on it. On the other hand, a certain land when hit by an earthquake would create an impact to its people and to the land itself. Yet, the land itself is still exist. That is what Isaiah 13:13 means and the other verses mentioned. Heaven and earth will be shaken. Meaning, people with powers and authorities as well as their people or followers will be shaken by the word of God. They will finally realize the truth exposed by his words. But they will not listen to the truth because they don’t want to accept their faults and be embarrassed with lots of people by telling to their people that they are wrong. Then Isaiah 34:4 will be their final journey. Lastly Isaiah 65:17 will be fulfilled finally. The new heavens are the 144,000 that will rule on earth together with Jesus Christ for 1000 years.
Isaiah 46: 12 “Listen to me, YOU the ones powerful at heart, YOU the ones far away from righteousness. 13 I have brought near my righteousness. It is not far away, and my own salvation will not be late. And I will give in Zion salvation, to Israel my beauty.”
Let us quote the verse in Isaiah 65:17 and 66:22.
Isaiah 65:17 “For here I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart. – NWT
Isaiah 66:22 “For just as the new heavens and the new earth that I am making are standing before me,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “so the offspring of YOU people and the name of YOU people will keep standing.” – NWT
So if we are going to take this literally as new heavens and new earth, would you think from the time of Isaiah from c. 778 – a. 732 upto the day of Armageddon or even before the earth created until Armageddon, heavens and earth will be completed by God by only just time? Scientifically, galaxies have existedd for billion of years. Our earth said to be existed for 4.5 billion of years. Fossils found to have existed thousand and million of years ago.
Perhaps we cannot guarantee the validity of the scientific reports. So some would say, cannot God himself make them in only lest time he wants just like on a thousand years? Well, we don’t know that. But one thing we are sure. Jehovah is a great designer. He would not just create things in heaven and earth without knowledge. He created everything with purpose. Why would Jehovah eliminate the wonderful things he made. He exerted time and effort and he will just vanish it. For what purpose and reason? What do you think? I believe our solar system and our planet earth just as established in its right position were created scientifically and mathematically. You can see the proofs in his words.
Did he not establish the gravitational force of earth to be 9.8 m/s2? I doubt if he did not? The speed of light, did he not define it? Before all mathematics and science come to existence to human mind. He himself formulated and define it. Anyone who contradict this concept doesn’t really have a brain!
Proverbs 3:19 Jehovah himself in wisdom founded the earth. He solidly fixed the heavens in discernment. 20 By his knowledge the watery deeps themselves were split apart, and the cloudy skies keep dripping down light rain
Job 38:33-36
33 Have you come to know the statutes of the heavens,
Or could you put its authority in the earth?
34 Can you raise your voice even to the cloud,
So that a heaving mass of water itself may cover you?
35 Can you send forth lightnings that they may go
And say to you, ‘Here we are!’?
36 Who put wisdom in the cloud layers,
Or who gave understanding to the sky phenomenon?
He established our solar system and other galaxies in equilibrium. Because it was perfectly designed and positioned, man had continue to exist. Earth has equal day and night. It is placed in the third position of the planetary system to have right temperature so that life would be possible. Haven’t God designed the number of hours the earth should rotate on its own axis? Did he not consider the must speed of the earth to rotate in its own axis? There are scientific reasons about it. Did Jehovah created it without prior knowledge and understanding? By just putting heavenly bodies in a wrong position or moved them out of their path, then it could cause a terrible destruction for all of us and to other things. Taken this considerably, can we say now that Jehovah will eliminate these things and replace them with new in just a short period of time?
A proof that heaven and earth will not eliminate.
Psalms 89:35Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
36His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me.
37It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah. – KJV
Psalms 89:35 Once for all, I have sworn by my holiness—
and I will not lie to David—
36 that his line will continue forever
and his throne endure before me like the sun;
37 it will be established forever like the moon,
the faithful witness in the sky.” – TNIV
Genesis 17:7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.” TNIV
Genesis 17:7And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. – KJV
Genesis 17: 6 At ikaw ay aking gagawing totoong palaanakin at papanggagalingin ko sa iyo ang mga bansa; at magbubuhat sa iyo ang mga hari. 7 At aking papagtitibayin ang aking tipan sa iyo at sa iyong binhi pagkamatay mo sa buong kalahian nila, na tipang walang hanggan, na ako’y magiging iyong Dios, at ng iyong binhi, pagkamatay mo. 8 At ibibigay ko sa iyo, at sa iyong binhi, pagkamatay mo, ang lupaing iyong mga pinaglakbayan, ang buong lupain ng Canaan, na pag-aaring walang hanggan at ako ang magiging Dios nila. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Genesis 48:3 Jacob said to Joseph, “God Almighty [a] appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and there he blessed me 4 and said to me, ‘I am going to make you fruitful and increase your numbers. I will make you a community of peoples, and I will give this land as an everlasting possession to your descendants after you.’ – TNIV
Genesis 48:3And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
4And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession. – KJV
Genesis 48L:3 At sinabi ni Jacob kay Jose, Ang Dios na Makapangyarihan sa lahat ay napakita sa akin sa Luz sa lupain ng Canaan, at binasbasan ako. 4 At sinabi sa akin, Narito, palalaguin kita, at pararamihin kita, at gagawin kitang isang kapisanan ng mga bayan; at aking ibibigay ang lupaing ito sa iyong lahi pagkamatay mo, na pinakaari magpakailan man. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Ezekiel 37:24 At ang aking lingkod na si David ay magiging hari sa kanila; at silang lahat ay magkakaroon ng isang pastor; magsisilakad din naman sila ng ayon sa aking mga kahatulan, at susundin ang aking mga palatuntunan, at isasagawa. 25 At sila’y magsisitahan sa lupain na aking ibinigay kay Jacob na aking lingkod, na tinahanan ng inyong mga magulang; at sila’y magsisitahan doon, sila at ang kanilang mga anak, at ang mga anak ng kanilang mga anak, magpakailan man: at si David na aking lingkod ay magiging kanilang prinsipe magpakailan man. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Proverbs2:21For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. (pls emphasize this)
22But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. – KJV
Kawikaan 2:21 Sapagka’t ang matuwid ay tatahan sa lupain, at ang sakdal ay mamamalagi roon.
22 Nguni’t ang masama ay mahihiwalay sa lupain, at silang nagsisigawang may karayaan ay mangabubunot. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Take note ang masasama ay MAHIHIWALAY SA LUPAIN (EARTH) at ang sakdal AY MAMALAGI ROON (EARTH). see??????!!!!!!
Psalms 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. – KJV
Awit 104:5 Na siyang naglagay ng mga patibayan ng lupa, upang huwag makilos magpakailan man, – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Proverbs 10:30 The righteous will never be uprooted,
Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. [pls emphasize this. EARTH NOT NEW EARTH.]
If there is really a literal new earth to be inhabited then why are the verses shows not like that.? Is Jehovah being inconsistent to his words because of the new earth he mentioned? Of course not. He means it in other way. Well, the reason is from the previous verses. This earth will be restore and this will be the same literal earth that will inhabit by the righteous people.
Psalms 119:90 Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth – KJV
Psalms 119;88Quicken me after thy lovingkindness; so shall I keep the testimony of thy mouth.
89For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. – KJV
(emphasize the word forever in relation to his words below.)
Isaiah 34:11-17
17He has cast the lot for them,
And His hand has divided it to them by line
They shall possess it forever;
From generation to generation they will dwell in it.
Isaiah 45:18 For this is what the LORD says—
he who created the heavens,
he is God;
he who fashioned and made the earth,
he founded it;
he did not create it to be empty,
but formed it to be inhabited—
he says:
“I am the LORD,
and there is no other. – TNIV
Isaias 45:18 Sapagka’t ganito ang sabi ng Panginoon na lumikha ng langit, na siyang Dios na nag-anyo sa lupa at gumawa niyaon, na kaniyang itinatag, at hindi niya nilikha na sira, na kaniyang inanyuan upang tahanan: ako ang Panginoon; at wala nang iba. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Awit 119:89 Magpakailan man, Oh Panginoon, ang iyong salita ay natatag sa langit. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Again emphasize the words of Jehovah below.
Isaiah 55:11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. – KJV
“New heavens and new earth that I am making.”
This verse shows God is presently making new heavens and new earth. How should we understand the new heavens and new earth? We must understand them symbolically. he is “making” new heavens and new earth because from the time of Abraham unto the he said it, he is making his way for his chosen people to acquire the kingdom of heaven and the other righteous people to possess the earth. So the heavens which Jesus said will pass away are not literal in sense. His words are related to this verse.
Isaiah 24:21 In that day the LORD will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished [a] after many days. – TNIV
Isaias 24:21At mangyayari, sa araw na yaon, na parurusahan ng Panginoon ang hukbo ng mga mataas sa itaas, at ang mga hari sa lupa sa ibabaw ng lupa.
22At sila’y mangapipisan, gaya ng mga bilanggo na mangapipisan sa hukay, at masasarhan sa bilangguan, at pagkaraan ng maraming araw ay dadalawin sila. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
You can check also other versions of the Bible. All of them show heavenly power. Obviously this cannot be demons because it is said all of them are gathered together as prisoners and at the right time they will be visited or punished. We know that kings all over the earth will be destroyed in Armageddon as well as all the kingdoms while Satan and his demons will be imprisoned after the Armageddon. So logically, they are not together literally. So it has another meaning, of course. Who are those people in verse 21? These are all leaders and kings on earth with rulership. They will put on a pit as prisoners for a period of time and will punish at the right time. When will this happen? Of course, there will come a time that Jehovah will denunciate all the nations and kingdoms.
Zephaniah 3:8 “‘Therefore keep yourselves in expectation of me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘till the day of my rising up to [the] booty, for my judicial decision is to gather nations, for me to collect together kingdoms, in order to pour out upon them my denunciation, all my burning anger; for by the fire of my zeal all the earth will be devoured. – NWT
Jeremiah 10:10 But Jehovah is in truth God. He is the living God and the King to time indefinite. Because of his indignation the earth will rock, and no nations will hold up under his denunciation.
Rulers all over the earth will not be able to escape. They are enclosed in a pit. No way to freed themselves. They will not leave their kingdom and their people even they come to know the truth. That is why they are going to receive the punishment at the proper time. This will happen after Isaiah 24:14-20 be fulfilled.
The above verses are supported by this verse:
LUke 21:25 “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. – NWT
Luke 21:26Men swooning away or expiring with fear and dread and apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken and [d]caused to totter. – AMP
Luke 21:26Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. – KJV
Luke 21:26 men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. – NASB
Luke 21:26 People will be terrified at what they see coming upon the earth, for the powers in the heavens will be shaken. – NLT
Lucas 21:26Magsisipanglupaypay ang mga tao dahil sa takot, at dahil sa paghihintay ng mga bagay na darating sa ibabaw ng sanglibutan: sapagka’t mangangatal ang mga kapangyarihan sa mga langit. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
Let us see other verses from the Bible that misinterpreted by many religions. Let us quote them.
Psalms 1:10 He also says,
“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end. – TNIV
It is also in Psalms 102:25-26.
What does this mean? It means heavens and earth are subject to cease or disappear. It is a comparison statement between the things Jehovah made and him. The quality of the things he made which can be eliminated and the his quality of being eternal. His creation has beginnings and will stop to exist as he wish it. But Jehovah has no beginning and no ending.
A verse from the Bible can prove that heavens and earth will not disappear.
Psalms 89:2 Your unfailing love will last forever.
Your faithfulness is as enduring as the heavens. – NLT
Psalms 89:2 For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens. – KJV
Awit 119:89 Magpakailan man, Oh Panginoon, ang iyong salita ay natatag sa langit. – Ang Dating Biblia (1905) –
So definitely from this we can learn that the words of Jehovah are faithful and are not lies. – Titus 1:2; Hebrews 6:18 And if the heavens will disappear, where can he set his words that would prove it is forever? See?
Let us have a more literal words of Jehovah that says heavens and earth will not be removed.
Psalms 148:3-12
3 Praise him, sun and moon;
praise him, all you shining stars.
4 Praise him, you highest heavens
and you waters above the skies.
5 Let them praise the name of the LORD,
for at his command they were created,
6 and he established them for ever and ever—
he issued a decree that will never pass away.
7 Praise the LORD from the earth,
you great sea creatures and all ocean depths,
8 lightning and hail, snow and clouds,
stormy winds that do his bidding,
9 you mountains and all hills,
fruit trees and all cedars,
10 wild animals and all cattle,
small creatures and flying birds,
11 kings of the earth and all nations,
you princes and all rulers on earth,
12 young men and women,
old men and children. – TNIV
3Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
4Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
5Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.
6He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass. – KJV
This is not literally from the mouth of Jehovah. The verse below is more undeniable. Would the verses above signifies only people? No. Because even people are included on that verses. From 3 to 12. All are commanded to praise him. Why? Because to emphasize more that all people are subject to praise him.There would be no excuse to anyone. In heaven and on earth. It is a must. That is why King David used the nonliving things even it is impossible for them to do that. So definitely those are literal things. And the BEST PROOF FROM THE WORDS OF JEHOVAH…
Jeremiah 31:35 This is what Jehovah, the Giver of the sun for light by day, the statutes of the moon and the stars for light by night, the One stirring up the sea that its waves may become boisterous, the One whose name is Jehovah of armies, has said: 36 “‘If these regulations could be removed from before me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘those who are the seed of Israel could likewise cease from proving to be a nation before me always.’” - NWT
Jeremiah31:36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the LORD,
“will the descendants of Israel ever cease
to be a nation before me.“
Let us clarify the words above. If the stars will remove so definitely we will never see their light at night. As well as the sun on the day. Of course removing earth will not prove the words of Jehovah. Is the seed of Abraham only stops after Armageddon so heavens and earth will vanish? No. The words of Jehovah is clear. The chosen nation won’t stop after Armageddon. There would be offspring that would coming after Armageddon. Abraham and Israel’s descendants will be from generations to generations and be forever. “TO BE A NATION BEFORE ME.” – so definitely the nation whom he chosen will be forever. so if the heavens and stars disappeared so how come the nation will be before him? Simple as that people.
Genesis 17:7 “And I will carry out my covenant between me and you and your seed after you according to their generations for a covenant to time indefinite, to prove myself God to you and to your seed after you. 8 And I will give to you and to your seed after you the land of your alien residences, even the entire land of Ca´naan, for a possession to time indefinite; and I will prove myself God to them.
Again people will twist this words. Some people will say how come it will be generations to generations and be forever? Can the earth hold the growing populations for the lifetime? From generation to generations doesn’t mean a generation will coming forever. Jehovah did not say any words that prove that. You cannot find anyone that supported such idea. He just said from generation to next generations but not generations to come forever. Before people know the effect of continous population forever, he knows it already. So definitely he would stop it. But where is the proof that after Armageddon people will still give birth? Read the verse below.
Isaiah 65: 23 They will not toil in vain or bear children doomed to misfortune; for they will be a people blessed by the LORD, they and their descendants with them. – TNIV
And this is a true happening after Armageddon because it is under on the new heaven and new earth that Jehovah made. Isaiah 65:17 – 25.
The verse below assured the nation (not the Holy Nation) does not end until Armageddon.
Genesis 17: 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.“
Acts 3:25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’
And that would happen after Jehovah eliminated all the wicked people, Satan and it’s demons and that is after 1000 years.
Another verse use by FALSE PROPHET out there is this verse:
2 Corinthians 4:18 while we keep our eyes, not on the things seen, but on the things unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are everlasting. -NWT
Interpreting Bible needs logic. There are literal and symbolical meanings. And we must consider everything in order not to contradict to other verses. There must be both meanings of the verses that seems contradicting. The problem with many religions is they stick to their own knowledge and not considering the thought of Jehovah. Just like in the word “new earth”. A lot of verses in the Bible shows that the earth will remain forever. From Genesis to Revelation. A very simple word, but if someone read it with “thinking” then he may be confused? At least confused not just like the others – interpreting in his own understanding and not knowing the thoughts of Jehovah or sticking on that verse and ignoring the others. About 2Corinthians 4:18. is that literal or not? If you say yes then prove me that the idea below is doesn’t belong to that verse.
We have heard the word of God through many preachers and we have WITNESSED the truthfulness of his words by READING and understand it from the Bible. WE HAVE SEEN HIS WORDS IN THE BIBLE. Would it mean the words we perceived through reading will pass or gone? Or to make it plain WILL THE HOLY SCRIPTURES DISAPPEAR? If you say yes, then you are against his words written by Isaiah on Isaiah 40:8.
Isaiah 40:8 The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite.” – NWT
NOW, CAN YOU STAND AGAINST THE TRUTH?
MORE REVELATIONS COMING!!!!
THE RIGHT TIME HAS COME!!!!
JW WILL ROCK THE WORLD!!!!
THE FALSE PROPHET REVEALED
Posted by: fromthesunrising on: October 26, 2009
IDENTIFYING THE FALSE PROPHET IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION
Revelation16:13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
Verse 14 shows that they are the ones who inspired by demons and making signs and wonders around the world. Well, certainly there is no single person or group that would refer to these identities. How do we say that? It says they are going forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth. Who’s group represented by a single person would go to kings all over the earth and would lead or deceive them or whose person would lead the world against the truth? Continents have different religions. Middle East and African countries are Islams, we also have Catholics, Protestants and Mormons to name the large group of religions. So definitely, no group or a single person can conquer or deceive the heart of the people of the world. Islam is against the teachings of Catholics, so as the Buddhism to Hinduism. So by this the wild beast can refer to another identity. I would discuss it on my next blog. But first, let us focus on the identity of the False Prophet.
Mark 13:21 “Then, too, if anyone says to YOU, ‘See! Here is the Christ,’ ‘See! There he is,’ do not believe [it]. 22 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the chosen ones. 23 YOU, then, watch out; I have told YOU all things beforehand.
This is also the same in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 where the Man of Lawlessness or the Son of Destruction were used by Satan to give signs and wonders to misled the people. Please read my other blog entitled “The man of Lawlessness as the False Prophet”.
The actions of the false prophets mentioned by Jesus in this verse is the same as in the Revelation.
Matthew 7:15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.
Why there is a single false prophet mention in the Revelation, when in fact there are lots of false prophets in the world who are making wonders and signs in the sight of the people? Would it make a difference against the other false prophets? There are no difference between these verses. They all falls to as the false prophets. All preachers who tell lies belong to Satan for Satan is the Father of Lie. – John 8:44. Those false prophets tell lies as what mention in 1 Timothy 4:1 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron;
So False Prophet mention in Revelation was already foretold in 1 Timothy. These people were inspired by the teachings of demons. He is not just a single person but referred as “the hypocrisy of men who speak lies”. We can definitely agree on it through the words of Jesus in the book of Mark.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Many people say that this unclean inspired expressions shows saying vulgar or obscene words. So this fool religions is seeking for a false prophet that would speak of vulgar or obscene words. I doubt if there is a false prophet claims to be a real prophet who would speak of vulgar and obscene words in public. I just don’t know the one in the Philippines who are so rude in speaking in front of camera and in public. Well, these false prophets would definitely speak in gentle words to brainwash many people. Just like Satan is portraying as the angel of light. So how come the false prophet speak of unclean words or expressions? Clean words doesn’t only show decency of words but rather showing purity and truthfulness. The words of God are clean for he never lie. – Titus 1:2. Once a person speak of things he thinks and never consider the truth in the Bible, then can you say his words are pure and clean? Of course not. A true preacher follow this verse.
Titus 2:6 Likewise keep on exhorting the younger men to be sound in mind, 7 in all things showing yourself an example of fine works; showing uncorruptness in your teaching, seriousness, 8 wholesome speech which cannot be condemned; so that the man on the opposing side may get ashamed, having nothing vile to say about us. And also this verse.
2 Peter1:2 May undeserved kindness and peace be increased to YOU by an accurate knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 for as much as his divine power has given us freely all the things that concern life and godly devotion, through the accurate knowledge of the one who called us through glory and virtue. 4 Through these things he has freely given us the precious and very grand promises, that through these YOU may become sharers in divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Of course if you don’t have accurate knowledge from God and from Jesus, then certainly you will also not have accurate knowledge to teach with other people and thus you would be spreading false or lies teachings to people. Then you are now making yourself a false prophet.
God’s people have talked and wrote the Scriptures through the Holy Spirit of God. They were inspired by Jehovah. – 2 Peter 1:20-21; 1 Timothy 3:16
On the other hand false prophet were inspired by demons and Satan – spreading false and lies to people.
TRUE CHRISTIANS KNOW THIS:
Luke 17:1 Then he said to his disciples: “It is unavoidable that causes for stumbling should come. Nevertheless, woe to the one through whom they come! 2 It would be of more advantage to him if a millstone were suspended from his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to stumble one of these little ones.
Mark 9:42 But whoever stumbles one of these little ones that believe, it would be finer for him if a millstone such as is turned by an ass were put around his neck and he were actually pitched into the sea.
The Man of Lawlessness as the False Prophet
Posted by: fromthesunrising on: October 25, 2009
Identifying the Man of Lawlessness as the False Prophet
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
I have read a phrase from Watch Tower magazine about this identity. Yet I did not focus of who is this really. Out of curiosity happening around I thought there is someone who really define this. I read and read the verse above in Tagalog version of the NWT and finally I came up to this idea believing on what JW told about this person.I finally agree with them. Here is my short comment or rather study on who is this person.
Verse 4 of the said chapter shows he is ready to oppose gods and to an object of reverence. Well some people could be gods both good and bad. so let us focus on the highlight word “object of reverence”. Definitely reverence is a word that determine for a good thing. A person can acquire reverence if he can show and earn a status which is acceptable to Jehovah. So by this we can be sure that this lawless man is against the good things, certainly on the truth. My first understanding before here is that this person is used by Satan to denounce the false religion. But I have changed my conception. If this is a single person that will be killed by Jesus on Armageddon(see the preceding verse of it) then how come a false teachings be against the false teachings. – (9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved.) We know a mistake cannot correct another mistake. Thus a deception would not lead to truth but leading again to a deception or false words. We also know that anyone who is against the truth is a transgressor. Who is the son of destruction in verse 3 of 2 thessalonians chapter 2? Is this really a single person? Then if it is a single person then how come Satan would used him to judge all the false religions? Would Satan be against himself? Definitely not. Would Satan give a chance for the other strayed people to get out from the false religion and let them enter to a true congregation of God? I don’t think so. Satan is the Father of lie. – John 8:44 Why would Satan give a chance for the other people to find the truth? He would do everything to misled the people. Verse 11 shows God is allowing the error to be with strayed people for them to believe the lie so that they will be judged by God. How come a lie would open the eyes of the people who live in lies? So this would mean something rather than that. Who is the “son of destruction”? If you are going to look what Jesus said on John 17:12 ” When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.” He mentioned that none of his apostles have been destroyed except with the son of destruction. We know that one of his apostles namely Jude Iscariot betrayed him. This was the one whom Jesus referring to. The term destroy means there is no life after all, life had ceased already, no chance of having life again. Satan is the cause of death beginning from Adam and Eve. He is the reason for the destruction of other people. The last words of verse 12 shows that there are verses in the Bible (example in Psalms) that were written first and assured by God that those wicked people will be destroyed and will have no life in the future. These wicked people were considered as the sons of the wicked one, none other than Satan. – Matthew 13:38.
Verse 9 and 10 says that the lawless man one is under the power of Satan. And Satan would not allow the truth be seen by the people. He would always wanted to misled the people. So this transgressor that he is using continues to tell lies to other people and bringing them all through the judgment of Almighty God. So I would also agree with the JW that these are the false prophets around the world. – 2 Corinthians 11: 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.
Verse 10 says the payment or retribution came to them (judging them God) because they did not accept the love of truth for them to be saved. People around the world are rejecting the word of God which is being brought by his people, the Jehovah’s Witnesses. They believe on what most people say about JW and not examining the truth on the Scriptures that they present. These people who are in false religion were tickled their ears by the teachings of the false prophets. Jehovah would not let a person be misled if this person is really seeking for the truth. He would always send a minister or find a way to let this people be in his congregation. However, a person who is against JW and never listen or entertain them would not have the truth even he prayed for a million times to Almighty God. Because, he himself is rejecting the truth already.
These are the verses that shows a singular word would sometime refer to a group of people.
Isaiah 43:10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none.
Revelations 3:5 He that conquers will thus be arrayed in white outer garments; and I will by no means blot out his name from the book of life, but I will make acknowledgment of his name before my Father and before his angels.
Revelations 3:12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine. 13 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
Revelations 3:14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God, 15 ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or else hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of my mouth. 17 Because you say: “I am rich and have acquired riches and do not need anything at all,” but you do not know you are miserable and pitiable and poor and blind and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire that you may become rich, and white outer garments that you may become dressed and that the shame of your nakedness may not become manifested, and eyesalve to rub in your eyes that you may see.”
These verses uses a singular pronoun and subject yet it is not an individual person talking about. It is the group of people that falls into it. That is the same with 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2. Although the person is referred as the man of lawlessness this would not mean he is a single person. He potrays all the people who fall in his identity – the false prophets.
My next blog was about the FALSE PROPHET in Revelation. This shows similarity with the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS OR THE SON OF DESTRUCTION.And also i would try to write about the wild beasts in Revelation through the book of JW about Revelation. I just hope you will open your eyes and heart to the truth. May the truth sets you free.
MY THOUGHTS FOR YOU TO PONDER
Posted by: fromthesunrising on: October 16, 2009
MY THOUGHTS FOR YOU TO PONDER:
“If someone is telling that a person is “out of his mind” though this person is really not, then the person who is saying it is the one who is “out of his mind” and have proven himself as a liar. And if he thinks himself as he is better than one, then let the evidence prove it and be seen by the others.” – 3.14?
The Psych and Moral Fact:
“The foolishness of a normal person is worse than a person who is really a mentally ill.”
“Evidence doesn’t lie upon hearsay but rather witnessing the truth even in a natural way or occurrences.”
“If a person follows a command which is inhumane, then that person and his dictator doesn’t have a nature of being a normal man but rather have a nature of being a wild animal who is always looking for something to victimize.”
“A misbehavior of a person is considered as not totally bad if there is a person who is making him to misbehaved. The person who is making him to misbehave is the one who really has a misbehavior and can consider as to have an ill-manner.”
“There is medicine for illness but ill-behavior can only be cured by the TRUE WORD OF GOD.”
“The real professional is the one who observes his behavior in all aspects and in all kinds of people at all times.”
“You cannot show professionalism unless you learn to behave as a young child.”
MY LAW THAT MAYBE YOUR LAW TOO:
“It’s better to lose temper and express yourself rather than being quiet at all and letting other people believe on what is false and wrong. It’s normal to burst up if you can stand for your dignity somehow rather than losing it by letting pass the words and actions of the people that surround you, keeping in their mind that you deserve to be mocked and a loser.”
“Let false criticisms be criticized by a true and valid criticism. Never a true and valid criticism can be overcome by a false criticism.”
for
“THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL.”
Now, am I ….?
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